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thimbronion: BingoBoingo: I found an interesting isp in CR. I was wondering if you had researched CR or if CR was excluded on some basis: http://thimbron.com/2020/05/costa-rica-servers/
BingoBoingo: I have a couple dedicated boxes rented in Costa Rica via RackNation. I haven't tried Costa Rica servers yet
thimbronion: BingoBoingo: are there any pointed questions I could ask them that would reveal whether or not they would nullroute me at some level of traffic?
BingoBoingo: During the pizarro search Costa Rica was a bit too close to the US and their datacenters at that time weren't particularly responsive
BingoBoingo: thimbronion: There are non that I can think of which would be definitive
thimbronion: BingoBoingo: also I believe there's some id ISPs have that can be used to figure out what their upstream provider is, but I can't remember what it's called. Do you know what I'm talking about or am I babbling?
asciilifeform: in asciilifeform's experience, the box that you can physically get to, wherever you happen to be (and e.g. inspect seals) in practice beats errything else.
BingoBoingo: ASN
BingoBoingo: The ASN is the identifier you want
thimbronion: asciilifeform: The more excuses for me to leave the US if only temporarily the better: "Oh shit, my site's down. I need to make a trip to CR. Damn."
BingoBoingo: But as revealed during the pizarro weather disaster, the ASN peering information can be less than truly informative
thimbronion: BingoBoingo: thanks!
asciilifeform: thimbronion: hm i thought you were doing a perma-move to cr
asciilifeform: (in which case 100% oughta put box there)
thimbronion: asciilifeform: date of perma-move is indeterminate, but def. not until after mid 2021.
asciilifeform: ah
asciilifeform suspects that the latech thing is a general pattern in orcistans, such that are far enuff away from where bulk of the net lives to have 'here's yer 1 dc'. but does not know whether cr falls into this category.
asciilifeform: and, as latech, they 'work until doesn't'.
thimbronion: asciilifeform: I have no idea but I wonder how hard it would be to test? i.e. spam own rentaserver and see what happens...
asciilifeform: thimbronion: in principle not hard (can even commission a 'commercial' ddoser). fwiw mine passed this test.
asciilifeform: ddos aint the only headache tho. what happens when yer raid needs fresh disk ? or say one day yer box won't ping. if you can't physically get to it, will have to ask someone on site. do they answer in realtime? etc
thimbronion: asciilifeform: indeed. recently had to replace an failed external drive at my local isp.
asciilifeform: in principle, if the only thing you host is your own www, and you absolutely dun give a damn re the irons, you can use cheapo isps and change'em like gloves. rather than bothering w/ colo etc.
asciilifeform: in practice, the cost of this begins to add up once you're using serious qtys of storage, cpu, or bw
asciilifeform: for instance, when i priced what costs to lease just 1 box comparable to just 1 of my standard 'dulap's (32core, 256GB ram, 4x1tb ssd) , in most places it is comparable to what my whole rack costs.
asciilifeform: (aaand in most of these, you'll end up w/ an intel.)
asciilifeform: you also won't be getting a FG, or any other custom oddity, in a leased iron. afaik anywhere.
thimbronion: asciilifeform: right. Ideally what I end up with is an older amd/tyan/3ware raid based system with FG and ancient gentoo located outside US.
asciilifeform: thimbronion: sounds like you will 100% have to colo.
asciilifeform: ( i do produce such boxen an' rent'em out; but i am in us. presently not aware of anyone else doing so either inside or out, tho.)
thimbronion: asciilifeform: I have built one myself minus the fg - but I kind of fucked up the gentoo install on it.
thimbronion: asciilifeform: I would ask how much you charge to produce such a box - but I don't know the processor specs I would want or that are available.
asciilifeform: thimbronion: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=3557
asciilifeform: thimbronion: i don't build'em for sale tho ( only for lease ) , i do not find it worth the effort to try to package'em for sale
asciilifeform: (it takes considerable sweat to locate, purchase, clean, test'em)
asciilifeform: i keep sufficient stockpile to replace mine/customers' if they need replacement, but that's all
asciilifeform: thimbronion: example of FG installation.
asciilifeform: in general, imho such machines oughta be considered 'non-renewable resource' and if you use'em, oughta keep a stockpile of your own.
thimbronion: asciilifeform: hrm ok yeah. I have two working tyan amd boards atm and two fgs.
thimbronion: Just gotta git up the gumption to do yet another gentoo install.
asciilifeform: thimbronion: put'em in a 1u chassis ea., can make 2 decent boxen. then colo.
asciilifeform: thimbronion: consider to try jfw's thing. otherwise can try mine.
asciilifeform: re gentoo.
asciilifeform: i have that gentoo kit on all of my x64 boxen at. there was 1 headache, re upstream package repos, there, but i since cured it .
thimbronion: asciilifeform: thx bookmarked.
asciilifeform: thimbronion: if you end up using that gentoo, consider to also mirror the repo. it could use some mirrors.
thimbronion: asciilifeform: can't guarantee it but it would be the least I could do.
asciilifeform: atm afaik mine's the only mirror that adds up to a proper (i.e. gcc4, 0 systemdism) gentoo .
asciilifeform: thimbronion: whole mirror weighs ~16G , it aint outrageously heavy for what it is .
thimbronion: Found the ASN: https://ipinfo.io/AS61489

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