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lobbes: wb bingology.net
BingoBoingo: lobbes: I've got more to bring back.
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile in local news, the fellow who identifies as an economist thrashing about his Party's collapse under him https://www.montevideo.com.uy/Noticias/Talvi--El-FA-uso-el-aparato-del-Estado-para-intentar-destruir-al-Partido-Colorado--uc732566
asciilifeform: wb BingoBoingo's www !
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Other www's are getting ready to come up as well. hanbot's and nicoleci's have been requested. Waiting for others to explicitly request theirs given this is 'anyserver' rather than 'UY1 that bingo sees, touches, and locks'
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 1 nitpick -- for links that are in fact in 'era 2', i rec to point to the loggers maintained by the living. i've nfi where is phf and for how long his ghost ship will stay afloat.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: For some reason feedbot pushed a July post.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i expect to very soon have a 'touchable' cage. unless i turn up something truly outrageous tomorrow at the site visit.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: proprietor seemed vehehery eager to sell.
BingoBoingo: Sounds promising
asciilifeform: 'pay, get keys' etc
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: pretty interesting, imho. the people with 5x the price, take their sweet fucking time, as if dun really like money at all
asciilifeform: meanwhile this one here called in <5min after email.
BingoBoingo: Well, in the smaller op the benefit he gets from 1 more customer probably more tangibly motivating
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it aint 'properly' small tho. seems to be owned by some conglomerate. 'coloco'.
asciilifeform: full rack btw goes for ~500 there.
asciilifeform: dunno wai so cheap, and difficult to overcome the 'gut' suspicion that 'there is catch.' but gotta be tried.
asciilifeform: ( that 500 rack comes w/ Gb/s , supposedly. )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: lol, asciilifeform apparently not awake at all, ~just now~ understood that was reading a july piece.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: These sorts of things happen
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'coloco' fella asked if i had any personally-owned ip chunks. ( asciilifeform does not . ) but iirc mp did. if this machinepark turns out to be worthwhile, and mp ends up sending in a box(s) , he could actually use own ips there.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Depends on the regional registry, but yeah. One of the early headaches down here is that LATAM is IP space poor.
BingoBoingo: traceroute between the chair and 'anyserver' includes a 112 ms hop from brasil to ny
asciilifeform: notbad
BingoBoingo: 16 hops, most of which are frontloaded antel to antel
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'm thinking, the $14 (12 if full-cab) per u , is even cheaper than maxim's. there's gotta be some reason...
asciilifeform: (maxim wanted 35 eu. per u)
asciilifeform: ( i.e. 39 us $ atm )
BingoBoingo: Maybe trying to compete with US-Pacific Coast prices?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i do not presently know what costs there.
asciilifeform: on pacific.
asciilifeform not even had occasion to go there, just yet.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Everynow and then offers from there hit the circular file. Apparently Oregon, Washington, etc have space around that price for full racks
asciilifeform: notbad
BingoBoingo has not looked at those offer in detail recently
asciilifeform: ( if only ben were still alive... )
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well he moved to Texas
BingoBoingo: iirc
asciilifeform: a
asciilifeform actually unearthed ~several~ poorly-advertised dc's in reasonable proximity to hovel, not only this 1. but none of the others 'eager beaver' , no word from'em just yet
asciilifeform: my orig. method of search, was braindamaged. did it from 0 again, properly.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, my CentOS 6 review: It's like Gentoo in that you end up building all of the moving parts. It differs from Gentoo in not having a portage full of recipes for doing so.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: already purchased another 'octeon' to set up the entrance router + switch for wherever new asciilifeform cage built. and will start by emplacing apu1's & rk's , then anyone who has the courage to put box in heart of reich.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: dulap-I was iirc a centos6 box. it is possible to live in it. but you dun get the fine-grained scalpel that gentoo folx are accustomed to.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: not even directly comparable, imho, centos packages are binariolade balls
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The packages are worthless. Sure, they are old versions of software, but they are the wrong old versions.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: dunno, i was able to stand up phuctor. ( and , not long ago, diana_coman -- logger . ) but then again these aint the 'hungriest' known proggies re deps.
BingoBoingo: Well, the LAMP thing has three moving parts that gotta talk to each other. mp-wp seems happier on apache 2.2 than the 2.4 UY1 had. But, that means cleaning up all sorts of version to version nitpicky breakages.
BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell hanbot_abroad http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=lXMx
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell nicoleci http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=rrJN
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform meanwhile single-stick installatron for dulap-gentoo; will test tomorrow
asciilifeform: console via rs232 , to make the apu1's live.
BingoBoingo moving on to dns daemon setup. This time once its set up it should probably get replicated to actual diverse boxes and locations.
BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell trinque Were you wanting a blog set up on the 'anyserver' as well?
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell mp_en_viaje Whenever you can make it to the namecheap panel I've got an authoritive nameserver ready on some ips for ns1.qntra.net through ns4.qntra.net http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=yhHl
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
feedbot: http://thetarpit.org/2019/a-guide-to-systematically-exploring-the-entrails-of-mp-wp-illustrated-using-some-weird-found-in-the-post-editor << The Tar Pit -- A guide to systematically exploring the entrails of MP-WP, illustrated using some weird found in the post editor
diana_coman: ftp://logs.ossasepia.com/ - I've setup a ftp mirror for asciilifeform as he currently has only the slow loper-os; he already uploaded the dulap tarball; it has anonymous read-only access for anyone interested/having trouble with loper-os.
mp_en_viaje: aand gmornin' lords an' ladies!
lobbesbot: mp_en_viaje: Sent 8 hours and 40 minutes ago: <BingoBoingo> Whenever you can make it to the namecheap panel I've got an authoritive nameserver ready on some ips for ns1.qntra.net through ns4.qntra.net http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=yhHl
diana_coman: morning mp_en_viaje
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo_, hopefully later today.
mp_en_viaje: meanwle im here on the highway, major todo, three police cars opening the way for thsi coupla 7ton trucks with some tarps thrown over them, and s buncha escorts
mp_en_viaje: i guess it's either gold or corpses, what's anyone thing ?
mp_en_viaje: thinl*
mp_en_viaje: oh, and a flock of fucking deer in the cultivated field just like that, by the side of the road
diana_coman: I can't quite imagine they'd have *that much/many* of either tbh
diana_coman had a fox staring from the garden, only yest
mp_en_viaje: back to nature!
mp_en_viaje: anyway, ima get back to writing this megapiece im working on
diana_coman: mod6: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-August/000160.html and similar gives 403; did those move somewhere else?
asciilifeform: ty diana_coman for ftp! 'warm lamp sound!' it worx.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: thanks for the check&ack!
asciilifeform: diana_coman: ~2MB/s download. a++
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-15#1945518 << it was a piz box. ( BingoBoingo is it being moved to 'anyserver' ? )
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-15 09:59:22 diana_coman: mod6: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-August/000160.html and similar gives 403; did those move somewhere else?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I can probably move it over if mod6 asks, in the case of the mailing list I will have to dig at what it needs to stand on. Because of what 'anyserver' is I am not at all inclined to put things there unless folks request it.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: ty
BingoBoingo suspects mailing list probably ought not to be on a blog box, even if it isn't intended to send outgoing dispatches.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it's pretty strange that the url leads to anyffin at all, if it hasn't yet been moved
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: iirc mod6 and ben colo'd a second box in a different rack somewhere.
asciilifeform: ah. evidently it's broken tho.
asciilifeform: meanwhile in minor noose, asciilifeform found that one vendor still makes usb stix (for routers etc) w/ single-layer nand flash. claims operation to +85C and 60,000 rewrites per block.
asciilifeform: ( what practical impact from this ? for instance, finally canhaz entrance router that actually logs events. instead of running from readonly squashfs as is usual. )
mod6: diana_coman: Yeah, thanks. BB made me a backup before the drives were pulled. I've placed all of the tbf website files back onto the original vps that used to host the site. So far, seems everything is working ok (as far as I can tell), other than the Mailing List.
mod6: I spent a fair amount of time yesterday trying to get Mailman working, which was frustrating, but no luck yet. If nothing else, I think I'll just ensure that all of the archives are visible somehow.
asciilifeform: mod6: confirmed; errything nao loads but the ml
diana_coman: mod6: ah, I see; yes, just the archives accessible and it will be great.
mod6: Regarding the foundation's two boxen: One was in .uy, the other was supposed to go down there, but is still in the possession of ben_vulpes. I communicated with him last week regarding the box, he'll be sending it to me as soon as I get him the deets.
asciilifeform: mod6: i'ma be inspecting and possibly leasing a rack today. if this goes properly, mod6 can consider installing $box there .
mod6: Yeah, not sure if we care about the ML any more as far as a communication tool for development or what not. So getting the archives back up is a decent start.
mod6: asciilifeform: Yeah, not sure how that would work exactly. Since I don't have $$$ for racking such things, unless your dc is gonna take btc?
asciilifeform: mod6: it's a usa rack, but (supposedly) locking, and in 20min range of asciilifeform , who will be gardening it personally
asciilifeform: mod6: ~asciilifeform~ will eat btc.
mod6: Ah, well then!
mod6: I'll wait a bit to see how things progress on that matter, and if all good, maybe will have bv just send the box directly there. Would save me a bunch of shipping fees.
asciilifeform: i'ma 1st get the rack tho, and its ~exact~ cost, and ~then~ come up with prices. ( will be cheaper than piz, cuz elementarily , in a quite high-risk location , not to mention the rack per se is 5x cheaper per u )
asciilifeform: mod6: expecting to charge (in coin) equiv. of 20-30 $ u.s. per 1u, presently.
asciilifeform: 'gardening' included.
mod6: Oh, that's very reasonable. Thanks for finding the place.
asciilifeform: mod6: 'bear found but not yet killed' but yw.
mod6: Aight, ima keep working on this website thing here. Will write in when the archives are at least visible.
asciilifeform: mod6: think about whether it may be good idea to try an' structure asciilifeform's , diana_coman's , other folx, rack efforts, as a continuation of piz. ( rly oughta ask mp whether this makes sense , tho ) . otherwise can operate as 'errymanforhimself'.
asciilifeform: mod6: at the very least, imho the purely piz-owned irons oughta live in new racks asap rather than go through the cycle of sell-for-penny-on-dollar-to-orcs etc. but no such thing will be done w/out agreement of shareholders ( and mod6 is majority holder. )
asciilifeform: mod6: BingoBoingo appears to have prelim. data re the cost of transporting'em, it seems to be +ev.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo plox to comment re ^ when you get a chance.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: +EV for some, maybe. The TBF box with its dell badge is probably going to get its greatest return on the local market where folks pay to posture. Haven't yet dig into seeing much in the way of what the supermicros might return with some small amount of patience.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: do you recall the estimate for 'crate from BingoBoingostan to usa' ?
asciilifeform: simply to put reasonably accurate picture in log
BingoBoingo: Fedex economy came in with an estimate a bit under 300 USD given the dulap's dimensions and bathroom scale weight without packaging. Packaging at this moment is looking like it will end up being mover's foam rolls and improvised cardboard box/wrap held together with substantial tape.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: my current thinking is, to usa, to move the beefier (24, 32 cpu) boxen -- +ev ; but to europistan , where i expect would cost 1.5x-2x, + oddball europistani taxes, may not be, if anyone contemplating the latter, oughta do separate estimate
BingoBoingo: DHL offers a more predictable per kilogram pricing model versus the FedEx black box, but they supposed just under 450 figuring an extra kilogram of packing.
asciilifeform: for boxen owned by subscribers, is to be left 100% to subscriber. but will need to consult w/ mod6 re piz-owned irons in particular.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i wanted the ballpark figure (ty) in log so that subscribers can start making decision 'i'ma ship' or 'i'ma make own new from 0'.
BingoBoingo: Also anything going to with a declared value of 200 USD or above needs some export paperwork done. The past few months have seen rather large outbound cocaine busts bound for Europe, so the export inspection folk that haven't been arrested are likely a bit on edge.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: find out what this involves. could 'make or break' the calculation.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Aite. It involves retaining a customs dispatcher. I'll see what they want to produce this type of paperwork.
mod6: Alright, I've got the ML archives back up. http://thebitcoin.foundation/ml/ and http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/
mod6: Should do the trick, let me know if you see something wacky (there certainly might be).
asciilifeform: ty mod6 ! seems to work.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i expect you still have the ~import~ receipts from the boxen that ben botched. that oughta do ~sumthing~ ? try an' find out.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I do. Will use if necessary.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if the orcs double-taxation thing appears to make transportation impractical, we may want to consider a pickup flight by asciilifeform . can remove 4u of boxen for ~2k (us) total . for certain machines even this may be +ev.
asciilifeform: ( not to mention custody of FG etc )
asciilifeform: mp actually suggested this last week, as a possible backup for ordinary post if the degree of retardation involved in the latter is beyond what can be digested
mod6: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-15#1945550 << In my opinion, Pizarro is done, and should be liquidated. Whatever the next isp-like-item that comes up should be a new thing of its own.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-15 14:05:36 asciilifeform: mod6: think about whether it may be good idea to try an' structure asciilifeform's , diana_coman's , other folx, rack efforts, as a continuation of piz. ( rly oughta ask mp whether this makes sense , tho ) . otherwise can operate as 'errymanforhimself'.
asciilifeform: mod6: prolly Right Thing.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Right. This is not Argentina, so there should not be any export taxes in the reading I've done so far. Anyways priced per rack unit, it may vale la pena for the custodial benefit if you can make it down.
asciilifeform: mod6: on top of this, imho the '20 boxen w/ no hot spares'-in-one-cage thing oughta be avoided . it tempts fate.
mod6: Very true.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'ma leave it 1) up to indiv. subscribers, for subscriber-owned boxen 2) mod6 for piz boxen. if 1+2 add up to 4, then it is worth for asciilifeform to physically pick up. otherwise not.
asciilifeform: per my reading of last wk's log, to mod6 is also left the fate of the piz FG's (mp asked to be repayed in coin, rather than iron, as i parsed it)
mod6: If the FG's (28 or so??) were purchased from nosuchlabs via the .9 BTC worth of investment agreement, then yeah, should be repaid in coin.
asciilifeform: for thread-completeness, there is also a possible variant where 4 boxen need pick up, but want to go to somewhere other than asciilifeform's. this is to be left to the owners, if indeed 4 boxen, and their owners want to move'em.
asciilifeform: mod6: 36 .
mod6: Ah, ty. Yeah, and if Pizarro paid in the form of debt, then the debt will be paid in coins.
asciilifeform rereads thread...
asciilifeform: mp actually left the q 'in what pay' open until liquidation set up. but imho oughta ask him again , if we're actually considering a transport run .
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-09 13:12:00 mp_en_viaje: otherwise, if you two(/three, whatevs) decide you absolutely not want to sell boxes locally (preferably after having considered the matter, rather than some inept guesswork in the blind), sna can take gear in lieu of cash, but not at arbitrary rates of nonsense.
BingoBoingo brb meat and errands
mod6: asciilifeform: Ah, ok. Sounds like we can work it out with mp then, one way or anohter.
asciilifeform: ftr asciilifeform opposes the sale of remaining FG stockpile to orcs at flea market. but mod6 is majority holder, and so will mention even this, for thread-completeness strictly.
mod6: I'm not sure how it'll work out exactly, but somehow not selling the very finite resources of working/tested FGs to orcs would be in the best interest of the Republic.
asciilifeform: imho yes.
asciilifeform: mod6: i mention because it appears that BingoBoingo cannot simply put'em in 1-2 crates and mail, may trigger 'export' wank.
asciilifeform: nao ideally i am mistaken about this, and can simply be posted.
asciilifeform: ( along w/ anyffin else that the owners decide to move. )
mod6: Yeah, let's see what we can find out there. But let's not put the cart before horse. Let's first get all the customers situated with irons and whatever remittance is required via liquidation.
mod6: Then we can tackle the other questions of what remains.
mod6: (Please say if I'm not making sense.)
asciilifeform: mod6: i bring up subj only to avoid possible recursive dependencies ( i.e. for some subscribers, whether to transport box or bake new , may depend on the costs -- and time involved ; and this in turn has effect on what's left to liquidate, etc )
asciilifeform would at least like to settle the q of whether even makes sense for anyone to fetch boxes, and if so, which
mod6: Fair, we should be looking into that part for sure.
mod6: As far as the foundation is concerned... I was thinking, originally, that I would have the whole box (with drives) shipped back from .uy. Then could be re-racked somewhere. But now, with the possibility that there might be some new rack space available, maybe the foundation should just have the drives shipped back, to be used inside of the 2nd box, currently not in use.
mod6: Then could have the drives emplaced, racked, and off we go. Could simply sell the old box in .uy to orcs.
asciilifeform: mod6: didja ever get an output from ben re his replacement in tbf ? afaik any possible transmutation of tbf requires at least a nod from the fella, given as he seems to be alive, and not yet formally drummed out
mod6: I haven't made a final decision yet though.
asciilifeform: mod6: imho mp is right re tbf btw. it's a stone chained to leg of mod6 and dragging it isn't producing detectably useful output presently imho .
mod6: asciilifeform: He said 'he wouldn't know who to nominate.' I'm sure we'll dig into what do re: foundation when the Piz stuff is settled.
asciilifeform: aite. it's b/w mod6 , ben, mp, & odin.
BingoBoingo: mod6: Be aware your box down here is heavier and longer than any other. Shipping the whole box in you case is likely to be the lowest return way to handle your.
BingoBoingo brb 4 real
mod6: BingoBoingo: Good to know, thx.
mod6: Sounds like shipping just the drives back might be the best way.
asciilifeform going to machinepark in <1h
mp_en_viaje: hi all!
mp_en_viaje: hot damn, again with the bs ?
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/how-germany-got-itself-banned-and-western-europe-altogether-isnt-all-that-far-behind/ << Trilema -- How Germany got itself banned, and Western Europe altogether isn't all that far behind.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-14#1945425 << aha, this'll be it. was using the right tld, but ... yeah
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-14 00:13:11 lobbes: my guess is that logs.minigame.biz is using qntra dns maybe? Also, don't forget to use ".biz" and not ".bz"
mp_en_viaje: also, dear rando "ddos" schmuck : it ain't working, it ain't gonna work, give up, you fail at this like everything else in your life, oookay ?
mp_en_viaje: and in other news, holy hell prague's into bon jovi. wtf happened here
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-14#1945429 << win.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-14 14:18:25 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-13#1945106 - got around to it and can confirm I got it working on Intel too (with minimal changes of kernel config ie selecting Intel rather than AMD flags)
mp_en_viaje: ahh, what a pleasure with these logs already!
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-14#1945433 << sounds pretty sweet tbh,
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-14 18:22:21 asciilifeform: meanwhile, dig update : found a smaller isp literally 5km from my chair, 300/mo (us) for 22u half-cab, 100Mb/s unlim.; asked re ddos, d00d answr'd 'multiple balanced pipes, and we dun block, eat.' no contract commits. will be goin' there tomorrow to see with eyes before buying. ( fella pleasant enuff, offered to broker a /24 from arin , '5-6k', i said '1st lesse' . w/out arin, 2.50 $ / ea. ip from shop. )
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-14#1945437 << defo buy the guy lunch.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-14 18:34:02 asciilifeform: it did. which is why i'ma take the half hr to go there an' recon.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-14#1945465 << i'd rather delegate wholesale than create a bits-and-pieces madness.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-14 22:18:49 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'coloco' fella asked if i had any personally-owned ip chunks. ( asciilifeform does not . ) but iirc mp did. if this machinepark turns out to be worthwhile, and mp ends up sending in a box(s) , he could actually use own ips there.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-14#1945485 << ideally document both lobes on own blog article, like sane civilised ppls.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-14 22:33:27 asciilifeform: my orig. method of search, was braindamaged. did it from 0 again, properly.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-15#1945502 << i expect to be ble to put these in within ~hour.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-15 00:29:12 BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell mp_en_viaje Whenever you can make it to the namecheap panel I've got an authoritive nameserver ready on some ips for ns1.qntra.net through ns4.qntra.net http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=yhHl
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: are comments closed on trilema?
mp_en_viaje: nope ?
mp_en_viaje: da fuck, 1sec
diana_coman: hm, let me try from somewhere else; atm it says "Both comments and pings are currently closed." on http://trilema.com/2019/how-germany-got-itself-banned-and-western-europe-altogether-isnt-all-that-far-behind/
mp_en_viaje: nfi whatsoever what might've caused that.
mp_en_viaje: looking
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, fixed ; nfi how it got set up that way.
mp_en_viaje: the joys of modern computing, do the exact same thing 10k times, get different results 0.02% of the time
diana_coman: lolz, the unpredictable script
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-15#1945531 << not bad.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-15 13:04:29 asciilifeform: ( what practical impact from this ? for instance, finally canhaz entrance router that actually logs events. instead of running from readonly squashfs as is usual. )
mp_en_viaje: from bitter root experience of failure comes renewed effort to do shit right, i take it ?
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-15#1945550 << it only makes sense if you'll actually do it.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-15 14:05:36 asciilifeform: mod6: think about whether it may be good idea to try an' structure asciilifeform's , diana_coman's , other folx, rack efforts, as a continuation of piz. ( rly oughta ask mp whether this makes sense , tho ) . otherwise can operate as 'errymanforhimself'.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-15#1945586 << the question keeps shifting, seeing how originally discussion was re coupla servers, not 28 fgs. in any case, the answer was then just as what is now : nsa will take .9 btc as it's owed in either cash or some other thing of equal value, for pizarro's convenience.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-15 14:44:22 asciilifeform: mp actually left the q 'in what pay' open until liquidation set up. but imho oughta ask him again , if we're actually considering a transport run .
mp_en_viaje: there won't be a yes/no until there's a specific list of what pizarro actually proposes.
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, the above is now done, in the sense that http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=yhHl are being announced ; mind though that you're not supposed to have all these in the same c block ideally.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: ty. Once more friendly boxes start getting stood up I'd like to start meaningfully speading the DNS around. Different c-blocks, different continents, etc.
mp_en_viaje: cool.
BingoBoingo has a couple requests for blogs to stand up on 'anyserver' to attend to.
mp_en_viaje: meh, apparently half an article made it in wtf is this
bvt: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-14#1945443 << please proceed with the installation
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-14 20:54:58 BingoBoingo: bvt: Do you want me to stand up an instance of your blog from the UY1 backup?
BingoBoingo: bvt, ty I'll get yours lined up.
asciilifeform: so, achtung, panzers ! asciilifeform -- signed up for rack.
asciilifeform: 22u (2 occupied by power an/ net panel) so yields 20 holes.
asciilifeform: took a while to go over the contract, cross out things i didn't like , etc. but all eaten. rack people took the dough, promised keys on friday (apparently needs day to clear cheque and day to run wire.)
asciilifeform: also came back with some photos (unlike latech, these people not allergic, apparently, to photo), will post.
mod6: cool, ty alf
BingoBoingo: ty for the good news
asciilifeform: pretty fancy house, btw, vs. latech's.
asciilifeform: unmarked bldg, in the middle of nowhere. inside, tho, resembling hybrid of dc and lobby of 5star hotel, flunkies bring coffee etc.
diana_coman: oh hey, well done asciilifeform !
diana_coman: and I still want to take a rk there, as soon as it's available really; atm my sad pile of isp idiots is only growing ,with not much useful to show for it.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'ma start fillin' it as soon as get keyz
asciilifeform: and all l1 people are invited. (at some point l2 ditto, after erryone in l1 who wants in, is in.)
asciilifeform: will write a photops0t right after tea, re: what i found inside.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i hesitate to say 'a+++ machinepark' until i've, lol, actually plugged sumthing in. but by all indications promising, in-biz since '94 and claims 0 outage complaints to date. sits on regional backbone.
asciilifeform: has amenities i had nfi even existed in dc -- dock and crane for loading irons, and hydraulic cranes on wheels for insertions of boxen.
asciilifeform: all w/ 0 surcharge for use.
asciilifeform: 2 battery rooms & 4 megawatt diesels.
asciilifeform: and all this, for a pittance.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: fwiw, ~all the isps in the US that I even looked at were significantly cheaper than similar eu-based ones (which in turn cheaper than some more exotic locations)
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-15#1945645 << this !
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-15 16:41:31 mp_en_viaje: from bitter root experience of failure comes renewed effort to do shit right, i take it ?
diana_coman: the eu-cheap usually means they have a dc in moldova/ro/bulgaria, lolz.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: apparently we found ~1~ thing that's cheap in usa..
asciilifeform had a very 'you get what pay for' upbringing so hesitant to 'get excite'. but it's by all indications a genuine rack, in genuine dc, and dirt cheap. we find out moar by actually pluggin' in...
diana_coman: asciilifeform: so you know, maybe worth actually to http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-15#1945646
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-15 16:43:38 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-15#1945550 << it only makes sense if you'll actually do it.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'm for. q then for mod6 .
asciilifeform: diana_coman: place seems to have a++ service , asciilifeform was sat in the board room in the throne and treated like royalty. fwiw.
asciilifeform brb,teatime
asciilifeform writes ps0t...
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=3478 << ding
asciilifeform waves to mp_en_viaje
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-15#1945630 << to answer this good q : 'braindamaged' search used search engines ; less-braindamaged turned out to be to walk local biz directories in search of anyffin appearing to offer colo.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-15 16:29:13 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-14#1945485 << ideally document both lobes on own blog article, like sane civilised ppls.
feedbot: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=3478 << Loper OS -- An Inexpensive Machine Park, of Yet-Indeterminate Quality.
asciilifeform: ^ article will disappoint folx who wanted to see the coffee, board rooms, other 'imponade', these can show later if anyone gives a shit. so far just the goods.
asciilifeform brb,meats.
BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell bvt http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=_klh
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform back.
asciilifeform goes to read mp re how germany sux.
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-15#1945643 << bought, btw, if wasn't clear from thrd, it's goin' in the switch.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-15 16:39:39 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-15#1945531 << not bad.
asciilifeform: wb trinque
trinque: good evening asciilifeform
lobbesbot: trinque: Sent 20 hours and 8 minutes ago: <BingoBoingo> Were you wanting a blog set up on the 'anyserver' as well?
trinque: BingoBoingo: no thanks, I'm going to take the opportunity to simplify my server situation a bit and consolidate.
trinque: stood up another bouncer now, so I should be more reachable.
trinque goes to eat log
asciilifeform: trinque: quick q for when you have 5m : do you know how to 'bless' usb stick into bootability ? for some reason stuck on this ( machine is known to boot stix, boots the heathen gentoo 'live' thing. but not mine, tho is set up exactly like the hdd from earlier test w/ diana_coman )
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-10-13#1945268 << nah, what I did was replaced with libressl, which is only infinitesimally less evil
trinque: asciilifeform: hm, boot flag on partition's set?
trinque: also mbr and not gpt?
asciilifeform: has to be mbr ?
trinque: iirc gpt incurs efi bullshit to be bootable
trinque: can't recall what. w/e it was, I did it on the two-headed server in uy to use the larger disks
trinque: BingoBoingo: do you have a disk cremation plan btw?

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